well, we're back. we did so much sightseeing that we didn't get to hardly any of the places that you hounds recommended. line-up at katz's was too long, but we did go to the stage deli by ground zero, and the pastrami was excellent. the two italian places we went to were incredible. thanks for the tip on trattoria trecolori. veal martini was excellent, and the tiramisu was the best ever. if i can recommend a place our concierge sent us to, try il gatto pardo at 33 w. 54th st. quiet, romantic, and excellent. four of us got out of there for $350 including a bottle of wine and tip. thanks for all your help over the past 3 months hounds. you made our trip the best. we'll be back...mic.