I stumbled onto a superb Bagel shop in Fremont yesterday. The closest I've found to H&H in the Bay Area. Perfect hard quasi crisp outer layer with an almost gooey inside, but not quite gooey ( you know what I'm sayin). It's located in the Warm Springs shopping center on Mission Blvd between 680 and 880 between Longs and Chaat Cafe. Worth a trek if you're tired of the crap that Noahs tries to pass off as a bagel.