Was catching up on previous post and read the "Yonah Schimmel is a Disgrace". As a Jew who did not grow up in New York, but who now visits 3 - 5 times a year, I must admit that I go to Schimmmels every time I bring a friend with me for the first time. Some places are not about the food - rather they exist for what they represent. Schimmel's knishes have never impressed me either, although I wondered if they were good by New York standards but just not what I grew up eating in Detroit. But Schimmels is a totem, a symbol of what was, of the world of our fathers. The well-worn front stoop and wood with tens of layers of bad paint attest to a staying power that has nothing to do with the food. This is a Chowhound forum, and the food is the thing, but there are other examples of places people enjoy on this board that are not great food emporiums. In my opinion, that includes the hot dogs at Gray's Papaya - what is it with those disgusting onions in gravy??? So, I am sure I will continue to go to Schimmels for the meaning of the place, and I will eat a kasha knish just because I am there. Heck, it is a convenient stop between breakfast at 2nd Ave Deli and further feeding in Chinatown!!