Thanks for the responses re my Pickle Bill's post yesterday. The sawdust on the floor is quite an incidental thing. That's not what did it for me (I choke on it). I'm looking for someone who knew Pickle Bill's beef sandwich. The closest I've come is the pot roast sandwich at Jongwaard's Bake and Broiler in Long Beach. As to Phillipe's--been there, done that, might do it again soon. Good but not in the same class as the venerable Pickle Bill's.