After last week’s “Top Chef,” in which grave accusations of larding the recipes with extra calories (the chefs were cooking at a camp for overweight kids) were thrown around, none of the contestants were axed.

So this week, the judges evened up the score, taking down two chefs: Marisa Churchill and Josie Smith Malave. Joyce Slaton talks with both of them.

Marisa—perhaps more famous now for her bikini calendar than for her performance on Top Chef—discusses using her sexuality on the show, the panna cotta disaster, and the infamous lychee scandal. Meanwhile, Josie, who “has many black friends,” sets the record straight on her southern cred—cobbler is regional, not racial!

Listen to other “Top Chef” podcasts:
Carlos Fernandez
Emily Sprissler
Otto Borsich
Suyai Steinhauer and Judge Tom Colicchio

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