Can anyone think of a good bar that will have light appetizers and room for a big group of moms on a Tues. night? Want to be able to talk, so no live music--don't want to pay for a special room, so can't be too crowded. Basically, I want a new place that no one's heard of or an only okay place that doesn't get packed. Marina, Pacific Heights, the Richmond, possibly Russian Hill? Thanks.