I've asked this on many message boards and am still searching for that old time Japanese saimin flavor of yesteryear. Old timers will know what I'm talking about. This saimin has that unique recipe which could possibly be the special soup stock or the curly noodles itself. I've tried using bonito and/or shrimp flakes and every kinds of dashi I could find. I tried using kombu (seaweed) and also dried scallops. Not the same. Many of the old mama and papa-sans have passed on and have taken the secret to their graves. Boulevard and Palace Saimin have OK noodles but not the same. Hamura's may come close. Washington Saimin closed down a few years ago along with KC Drive In. What's left? Likelike Drive In serves package saimin from what I was told. Hardly anyone makes their own anymore. Anyone has some good secret places they know of?