But I have a very specific question. I'm looking for great San Francisco hamburgers, but not fancy ones like Zuni. My favorite burger of all time is at Val's in Hayward--I've been there 6 times, and 4 times it was awesome, and 2 times it was pretty good. Everyone I've taken there has been blown away, fortunately we went on the awesome nights and not on the pretty good nights. I just came back from Michigan, where I tried the burger at Miller's Bar in Dearborn, which was thick and meaty and delicious and rated one of the best in the country (in that GQ list), and we thought it was great. But we didn't think it was as good as Val's.
So, my question is, where are the non-fancy burgers in SF that are as good as Val's? Meaning, if you haven't been to Val's, or if you've been there and didn't like it, you probably aren't a good person to answer this question.