Please help me. Anyone who thinks Tommy's Burgers are absolute trash; In n Out is pedestrian; and The Counter is just OK, discuss real burgers but do not include Umami, Father's Office, Hole in the Wall, 25 Degrees. I've had them multiple times and I like them a lot but I want "Drugstore Burgers"/"Old Fashoined Burgers"/"Drive-In Burgers", or whatever you want to call them. Cooked on a flat grill. Had Pie & Burger and Apple Pan, too, so something new. Is it possible there are no burgers left in this category?