I made a strawberry rhubarb pie on Saturday and it came out watery, even if it did taste terrific. I added no butter or any liquid of any sort, and yes, I did add about three tablespoons flour mixed in with the sugar. Someone told me that rhubarb has to be roasted for hours before used, to dry it out. That doesn't sound right, but maybe... Can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong?
No, you don't dry out your rhubarb. If you are finding it too runny, then I would use cornstarch rather than flour. It has more thickening power. I would sprinkle some on the bottom of the pie shell before filling. Or you could add some tapioca when you toss the fruit with the sugar. Young rhubarb has more water than older, summer rhubarb, also.
Thanks, you may be right, Sarah, becasue this does not happen in the summer.
Yes, I just baked what is a tasty, but terribly watery rhubarb pie! The difference from my last one is that I used rhubarb from a local farmers market and the stalks are much bigger. Based on the discussion here, I'm assuming that is what made the difference. I used a recipe from Cooks.com and they use flour. I will try tapioca next time. Still, I'm a bit surprised since using fresh, farmer rhubarb would have been what most people used a century ago...so...what did those farmer's wives do to make a non-watery rhubarb pie?!!
I use Minute Instant Tapioca to thicken mine. The portions are are on the side of the box. It is still going to be a bit juicy, that is the nature of the vegetable.
I totally agree with the above suggestions about using Minute tapioca to thicken instead of flour or cornstarch. I believe you will even find the right proportions to use on the tapioca box.
Tapioca is great thickener for other pies as well. I also use it for apple, blackberry, and blueberry.
i agree that tapioca is better for thickening fruit pies (except apple or pear) than flour. I use tapioca flour that I get at an asian store.
Also, with strawberry rhubarb pie, i find that if i dont let the pie cool completely before cutting it, it tends to be runny. I think the rhubarb and strawberry juice thickens more than most pie juices as it cools.
Rhubarb is inherently liquid once it's cooked. I'd never even dream of making a pie with it.
Interesting - rhubarb pie is a classic in the States! As is strawberry rhubarb pie.
"Rhubarb is inherently liquid once it's cooked."
If that's the case, what are all those chunks in my rhubarb pie?
I didnt say there aren't chunks. I said it's inherently watery.
Cook rhubarb and you get a lot of juice. This is a very good thing. Just not in pie.
That said, maybe we have different rhubarb here than you have there. Whilst I can find many recipes for compote, fool, crumble and tart, I only see one for pie (and that one doesnt have a pastry base, just a top (so no base to get soggy)
My mother in law, makes a Creamed Rhubarb Pie that is terrific. It will make non-rhubarb pie lovers a believer.
Trish... recipe? Please please? Rhubarb addict seeking converts here...
We grew up on rhubarb pie on the Canadian prairies. My favourite and would never think of adulterating it with strawberries!
Rhubarb Custard Pie
One unbaked 9" unbaked pie shell (make your own or buy one)
Filling
4 cups, approx rhubarb cut into 1" pieces
3/4 cup white sugar
2 T. flour
1 T. lemon juice
1/8 t salt
Topping
3 eggs
1 cup heavy cream
2 T melted butter
1/4 t nutmeg
2 T sugar
Filling: Toss mixture and turn into pie shell. Bake at 400 for 20 minutes
Topping: Beat eggs slightly; stir in cream, butter and nutmeg. Pour over hot rhubarb in pie shell. Bake 10 minutes; sprinkle with sugar and bake 10 minutes more or until browned.
Mother in law's Creamed Rhubarb Pie
Dough for a 9 inch Double Crust Pie
3 cups rhubarb, sliced in pieces
1 1/2 cups sugar
3 tablespoons flour
1/2 teaspoon nutmeg
1 tablespoon butter
2 beaten eggs
Directions:
1. Line 9 inch pie pan/dish with bottom crust.
2. Place rhubarb in large bowl.
3. In a medium sized bowl, blend together the sugar, flour, nutmeg and butter.
4. Add the 2 beaten eggs to the flour mixture and combine till smooth.
5. Pour mixture over the rhubarb and stir gently.
6. Place rhubarb mixture in the crust and cover with top crust.
7. Bake in a preheated 425 degree oven for 40 -50 minutes depending on your oven.
One other idea I've used when I don't have tapioca. You can make a rhubarb crisp. Those are always nice and juicy, and it goes especially nice over vanilla ice cream!
I'm surprised that no one is suggesting that the strawberries might be the issue. Anyway, count me among those who prefer straight rhubarb pie.
I've noticed that the wateriness does vary from case to case, but I'm not sure it's relative to the season. My Spring pie this year was not watery--I used only some flour as thickener; I also use some dabs of butter--but I did have the cut rhubarb in the fridge for a couple of days, even though it was from my backyard.
Extra thickening strategies might work, but I prefer just to live with some occasional wateriness. By the way, any leftover pie can be left in the fridge if need be, and it sets up fine there.
It's an old post but it still appears to be at the top of google search so people are still looking at it.
It doesn't matter what time of year you harvest your rhubarb, or from what country the rhubarb originates or what variety it is - it will make not one jot difference to a wet or dry filling.
The longer you cook rhubarb the more it will break down and the more juice will come out of it. If your pie is wet then your rhubarb is cooked to death. Noticed how all the rhubarb has shrunk to next to nothing? So, it's more important what temp your oven is at when you put your pie in. You want the pastry cooking through and you want the rhubarb cooked BUT NOT TOO MUCH. The best thing is to put the pie in a 200c oven for about 40 minutes. That will cook the pastry and should also cook the rhubarb without overcooking it and should leave the rhubarb with an ever so slight bite. The length of time will also be affected by the size of the chunks. If you aren't sure if the rhubarb is done then get a bamboo skewer and blunt the end of it and put it in the pie's vent hole. Any resistance and try 5 more minutes.
I also heavily dust the bottom of the pie case with flour before the rhubarb goes in just in case I leave in in too long. That will also make sure that if there is rhubarb gravy, then it will thcken on cooling.
Not all rhubarb is alike. The old standard variety that I know was Victoria. It is more acidic than modern varieties and has stems that are an ugly dirty green and they cook up that way too. EEK! S the red stemmed varieties were developed.
I bet the rhubarb the subject of the complaint was a modern variety that had bright red stems. These varieties in my opinion are a lot wimpier and more turgid.
Also depends on how dry the ground is before picking. Rhubarb is built that way for a reason - to take up water.
I grow Rasberry Red and Timperley Early. The Rasberry Red is a classic red stemmed variety and Timperley Early produces two crops. The second crop will give very thick stems if left longer. They both produce wet pie if overcooked and if cooked properly it's the right consistency.
I took a pie over to my sister's the other weekend as my contribution to sunday lunch. My brother in law asked how I'd got the rhubarb cooked so perfectly without it being wet. He's now using my method.
Tedzz. Do you live in the UK?
What is Timperley Early like? Nurserymen's descriptions just gush about everything. Perhaps compared to Victoria.
In New Zealand all I see is Victoria and Glaskins Perpetual.
In Canada, Victoria, Sutton's Seedless, Valentine and Canada Red.
Cultural differences also determine the suitability of a rhubarb variety.
I am Polish. Polish rhubarb is a very loose, tart compote that you can drink from a glass. Victoria is excellent. English and French rhubarb is a jam. Raisins are better.
Even nurserymen's descriptions such "high quality" and "good flavour", which seem temperate and considered, are not indicative of much.
Yes, I'm from the UK. Timperley Early is a sweeter variety (or rather it's slightly less acidic - but only slightly). It's the variety the UK yoghurt'dessert manufacturers use in their products as they seem to need a bit less sugar. Even when it's on its second thick stemmed crop it still doesn't seem to need as much sugar. Rasberry red is very tastty but you need a couple of plants if you like rhubarb. It's not a very old UK variety and it hasn't been around that long. In fact I'm going to move mine as it's too shaded now and isn't producing as much. They like shade - but that one is getting too much.
My father has a very late rhubarb that is VERY acidic. It takes buckets of sugar to make rhubarb pie and as he's diabetic I tend to use his unknown variety for myself and make pies for him using my Timperley early as there's less sugar in them.
I know of nobody in the UK that has ever made a strawberry and rhubarb pie. I WILL try one of the recipes I've seen on here and report back.
Strawberry and rhubarb is a magic combination, a match made in gastro-heaven. Suggestion. Before you go to the trouble and expense of making a pie, try making a bit of compote so that you can see what it is like, what you like and how little sugar you can get away with.
Be careful with American recipes They tend to be heavy on sugar. For eg. look at American recipes for rice pudding.
I remember my first strawberry-rhubarb pie. It was in a restaurant. They used a rhubarb that had no bite in it- very little rhubarb acidity- and then sweetened it. To me it was just red muck. If it had been the first and only strawberry -rhubarb combination that I had, it would have been the last.
The most important thing is what one likes.The Ms. is English and a excellent all round cook. Desserts are her specialty. She once tried to please me 27 years ago before we were married. I have never asked her to cook rhubarb again.
See
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9697...
wherein I rue, with a barb at the Ms.
Strawberry
Tedzz. Do you live in the UK?
What is Timperley Early like?
In New Zealand all I see is Victoria and Glaskins Perpetual.
In Canada, Victoria, Suttons Red, Valentine and Canada Red.
Cultural differences also determine the suitability of a rhubarb variety.
I am Polish. Polish rhubarb is a very loose, tart compote that you can drink from a glass. Victoria is excellent. English and French rhubarb is a jam. Raisins are better.
I only use flour. I don't use strawberries. Depending on the rhubarb itself, it can be more or less runny. I just roll with the runny-level rather than work to set it up with tapioca or the like. That runny stuff is good to ladle over the pie, with or without ice cream atop.
I note that the remaining pie thickens nicely in the fridge over night, although I still try to bring slices to room temperature before serving.
This discussion has been extremely helpful to me. Last post was August 2015, but that's ok! Now that summer is coming again, I'm sure there will be more rhubarb endeavors. I like the suggestions to use a dusting of flour on the inside bottom pie shell, and not to overcook, as the rhubarb will continue to break down and "liquefy." Also good to realize that it's just a fairly runny pie! And finally - I did notice that after full cooling, the runny-ness seemed to stop. I think by tomorrow, it will have set up fine.
I picked up an old fashioned trick here (must have been on another thread) that people may scoff at, but it's foolproof. For thickener, use a box of regular strawberry Jello, either with or without actual strawberries in the pie.
The funny thing is, everyone who tastes my pie says, oh it tastes just like Grandma's; I could never figure out her secret....Now they know.
I have my Grandmother's cookbook circa 1940, and the directions say to use cornstarch and put all the ingredients in a pot and cook it until the cornstarch thickens and is semi clear. I usually put the rubbarb and or strawberries in the same pot. I have made her pie without fail, for years. She always made one crust pie and made a simple oat crumble on top, really good with fresh whip cream
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