Friendly word of advice, many vendors are suggesting a "sale" on kitchen equipment for a limited time. Take this with a grain of salt. Last week an on line vendor was advertising a special sale on Wusthof knives. Checked my catalog. That was not a sale, it is a game many retailers are playing. They advertise a sale price which is down from the MSRP, which in reality the price never was, the vendor bought the stuff to sell at reduced price. This week another co. was touting a LC 3.5 qt. brasier at $209. Sale? Nope. It is actually the day in day out price. No need to rush. I "called" the Wusthof peeps on this sale, pointing out that the so called sale was the actual sales price...never heard from them again and I am off of their e-mail list.