I really mean it. We're at a loss to have a nice dinner anywhere in downtown LA. By "nice", I mean really excellent food, good service, and an environment where easy conversation is possible. Yes, Patina fits the bill, but it's terribly expensive. Bestia has great food, but the noise is totally intolerable (at least to me). The food at Ravera, Chaya and Drago are all ok, but sort of corporate/chain-like and nothing special. Church and State was very good, but seems to be slipping. Water Grill was terrific before their remodel, but is now just ok, and not worth the cost. I know this sounds (and likely is) really negative, but we like great food served in a nice and reasonably quiet environment with good service. Does this exist downtown?