For pie! I've looked at Safeway and Trader Joe's. No luck. I probably don't want the old fashioned kind with suet because my dad won't eat it. Though if you've seen that, maybe you could let me know. (It used to come in a box, brick-like. Does it still?) The Joy of Cooking has a veg. recipe with apples, raisins, etc.. I might make that, but I'd rather be semi-lazy and find it in a jar and use my own crust. On the other hand, if there are good ready made pies out there, maybe I'll just do that. Thanks for any help.