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Kramer Zwillings carbon knife problem

Geordietraveller | Dec 26, 201411:19 AM

Long time lurker, first post!

Long story short - got my first Japanese knife last year (Kikuichi 8" stainless gyoto) and have been learning about sharpening and honing this past year. Really enjoying the knife but a bit concerned about its fragility cutting big squash / jointing chickens etc. plus intrigued by carbon so I used this as an excuse to look at another knife...ended up with a big beautiful carbon 10" Kramer Zwillings for $299.

Now, when I looked at it in store, I realized that the rivets weren't perfectly flush but I could live with that ( not directly where I held it with a pinch grip). Looked at the other one they had in and it was slightly worse in this respect. Now that I have it home though, I see that the handle has "shrunk" back from the tang along the top edge of the knife where my palm would sit. (See crappy photo above). It's also evident underneath the handle but not as pronounced. I feel a bit of an idiot for not noticing this at the time and I'm wondering what to do about it. I also found this exchange about the knives from earlier this year -

Jul 28, 2014 11:25 PM
I bought the $399ish Kramer/Henckels (perhaps this one for $349) from CKTG. The rivets protruded so much that I returned it. Saw it in person at SLT more than a year later, with the same problem. Even though this wasn't the 'essential' line, I'd say feel it in person before spending the $s!

RE: danlind3

Jul 29, 2014 07:20 AM
Yeah, I remember you said that the Fit and Finish for your Kramer knife wasn't very good.

RE: Chemicalkinetics

Jul 29, 2014 08:35 AM
Good memory! So it's weird they are still like that. I'd hope Kramer would insist on good QC. CKTG no longer sells Kramer knives, but I'm not sure QC is the reason.

RE: danlind3
Jul 29, 2014 08:26 PM
The Carbon line had a massive problem with the rivets. Every model I ever felt had rough, sharp edges - almost like the wood of the handle had shrunk.

The Damascus and Essential lines, having synthetic handles, (linen micarta and POM plastic, respectively) seem to have a much more consistent, smooth finish with the rivets.

Combine that with the fact that the Carbon line rusts if you look at it wrong and I can see why most SLT stores no longer carry it."

I was wondering if anyone else who has this knife has noticed this. i don't really feel like paying to have it re-handled. Should I just return it? ( I've resisted the very strong urge to prepare Xmas dinner with it! ;-)). Because I haven't actually used it I don't know how much of an effect it will really have on comfort...


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