I have a Cutco "waterless" dutch over and and thinking about buying a set. I went to a Saladmaster demonstration where the entire meal was cooked in under 45 minutes and the rep, Randy Pigeon, was very funny and informative. The set I was interested in was extremely expensive, so I thought to call my trusty Cutco dealer, Kerry Kruckmeyer, and I could get more product through him for less $$$. To check out either of these before deciding you can contact Randy @ www.northwestelite.com or Kerry @ 877-886-2382. Kerry claims he has been cooking with Cutco for the past 30 years.