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Any Clifton's Cafeteria Reopening News?

wienermobile | Jan 8, 201402:15 PM 119
Los Angeles Area Restaurant Openings Cafeteria

Clifton's in downtown LA has now been closed for it remodel since September 26, 2011, it was then planned to last three to six months, while the restaurant gets a new kitchen and a redesigned serving area. In February 2012, the remodeling process continued with the "unveiling" of the original 1904 building facade, with the removal of the 1963 aluminum facade. They estimated that the cafeteria would reopen in about 18 months. This is taking forever…..

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  1. wienermobile Photo's of the Clifton's remodel..

    Photo's of the Clifton's remodel..

    1. j
      Johnny L A building that old will have many hidden surprises I guarantee you. Plumbing, gas, electrical codes or regulations that may or...

      A building that old will have many hidden surprises I guarantee you. Plumbing, gas, electrical codes or regulations that may or may not have been updated over the years.

      If the owners are serious they will do it all from scratch to make it last another 100 years. Better to it right once and have to do it twice.

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      1. Servorg re: Johnny L Don't forget the concern with bringing old buildings like this up to current seismic retrofitting standards. This is a very time...

        Don't forget the concern with bringing old buildings like this up to current seismic retrofitting standards. This is a very time (and financially) consuming effort.

        1. wienermobile re: Johnny L They did find a neon sign that had been sealed in the wall and had been left turned on for 70 years that they didn't know about...

          They did find a neon sign that had been sealed in the wall and had been left turned on for 70 years that they didn't know about.

          1. wienermobile re: wienermobile The 70 year old hidden neon sign. Neon experts told Meieran it must be the "oldest existing, continually operating neon in the world...

            The 70 year old hidden neon sign. Neon experts told Meieran it must be the "oldest existing, continually operating neon in the world."

            1. n
              ns1 re: wienermobile this should be on the history channel or something

              this should be on the history channel or something

            2. j
              Jase re: wienermobile That is amazing! I hope someone is documenting all the things they are discovering during the remodel.

              That is amazing! I hope someone is documenting all the things they are discovering during the remodel.

              1. Servorg re: Jase Geraldo is champing at the bit to open up the vault (Capone's?) they found...

                Geraldo is champing at the bit to open up the vault (Capone's?) they found...

                1. wienermobile re: Servorg It's LA so it must be Bugsy Siegal's vault.

                  It's LA so it must be Bugsy Siegal's vault.

          2. c
            csh123 are owners same family since 1904??

            are owners same family since 1904??

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            1. SilverlakeGirl re: csh123 The change we're looking at here is 2010: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifton's_Cafeteria

              The change we're looking at here is 2010:

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clifton&...

              1. c
                csh123 re: SilverlakeGirl wow "The Clinton family's five generations[6] as California restaurateurs began when David Harrison Clinton came to Los Angeles...

                wow "The Clinton family's five generations[6] as California restaurateurs began when David Harrison Clinton came to Los Angeles from Missouri in 1888"
                maybe this is the oldest

                1. wienermobile re: csh123 The Clifton family sold Clifton's Brookdale to nightclub operator Andrew Meieran on September 21, 2010 and has been under construction...

                  The Clifton family sold Clifton's Brookdale to nightclub operator Andrew Meieran on September 21, 2010 and has been under construction since Sept 2011

            2. fgrade Yeah, i walked by a couple of days ago and it was a little depressing seeing the building still boarded up.

              Yeah, i walked by a couple of days ago and it was a little depressing seeing the building still boarded up.

              1. k
                kevin Let me know when you find out.

                Let me know when you find out.

                1. o
                  OliverB Any possibility / chance in hell that Clifton's might reopen it's doors by July 4th weekend, when I swing back down south with the...

                  Any possibility / chance in hell that Clifton's might reopen it's doors by July 4th weekend, when I swing back down south with the missus?

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                  1. Servorg re: OliverB Supposedly it's going to reopen on Flag Day (June 14th) this year (2014) but who knows what the reality of that ETA is.

                    Supposedly it's going to reopen on Flag Day (June 14th) this year (2014) but who knows what the reality of that ETA is.

                    1. o
                      OliverB re: Servorg Wow, that'd be amazing... After 2+ years under renovation, I'd make the trip for Clifton's alone! I can't wait and really hope it...

                      Wow, that'd be amazing... After 2+ years under renovation, I'd make the trip for Clifton's alone! I can't wait and really hope it happens!

                      Any idea whether they'll be operating under normal weekday hours... or what the schedule will look like? I'll rearrange my whole itinerary if need be, but as it stands, we have a Monday morning to fill. : )

                      1. wienermobile re: Servorg Servorg thanks for the info. I have found it very had to find anything out about opening dates or even construction updates. Please...

                        Servorg thanks for the info. I have found it very had to find anything out about opening dates or even construction updates. Please keep us posted we've all been waiting a long time for this...

                        1. jessejames re: wienermobile what foods there are you guys most craving?

                          what foods there are you guys most craving?

                          1. Servorg re: jessejames Lime Green Jello with cut up pears - obviously. (g)

                            Lime Green Jello with cut up pears - obviously. (g)

                            1. jessejames re: Servorg is it like bluto going down the cafeteria line at faber?

                              is it like bluto going down the cafeteria line at faber?

                              1. Servorg re: jessejames One scoop of cottage cheese (or it may have been a hard boiled egg) and one popping zit imitation, coming right up... https...

                                One scoop of cottage cheese (or it may have been a hard boiled egg) and one popping zit imitation, coming right up...

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZN4r...

                                1. jessejames re: Servorg comedy gold cliftons sounds fun to me...never had the chance to go before they closed

                                  comedy gold
                                  cliftons sounds fun to me...never had the chance to go before they closed

                                    1. m
                                      mc michael re: jessejames I went a few years before the close. I have to say the Twin Peaks woodsy decor far exceeded the food which was maybe a step above...

                                      I went a few years before the close. I have to say the Twin Peaks woodsy decor far exceeded the food which was maybe a step above school cafeteria. Maybe.

                              2. The Vienna Loaf dinner.

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                                  angiestrada re: jessejames Mine is the turkey dinner wit all the trimmings and creamed corn, and for desert cherry pie, I just can't wait for opening day

                                  Mine is the turkey dinner wit all the trimmings and creamed corn, and for desert cherry pie, I just can't wait for opening day

                                  1. wienermobile re: angiestrada You must be my brother from another mother…right down to the pie.

                                    You must be my brother from another mother…right down to the pie.

                                    1. k
                                      kevin re: wienermobile oh, cherry pie, canned or not ???? who am i kidding ??????? canned is mo betta.

                                      oh, cherry pie, canned or not ????

                                      who am i kidding ???????

                                      canned is mo betta.

                          2. c
                            CharlesDarwin CLIFTON’S RENOVATION: The restoration of the 1935 Clifton’s Cafeteria, at 648 S. Broadway, is on track for completion by the end...

                            CLIFTON’S RENOVATION: The restoration of the 1935 Clifton’s Cafeteria, at 648 S. Broadway, is on track for completion by the end of August, said property owner Andrew Meieran. The long-awaited renovation of the four-story building includes several eating and drinking establishments, as well as a new name: Clifton’s Cabinet of Curiosities. The first two floors will be a restored version of the classic cafeteria, serving up comfort food dishes. Other options will include a tiki bar and steakhouse-style eatery on the fourth floor, as well as a butcher, a specialty grocery and a bakery, according to the project’s website. Meieran acquired the building in 2010, but the project has seen both substantial delays and a swelling budget. The developer is now spending about $7.5 million on the renovation. At cliftonscafeteria.com.

                            http://www.ladowntownnews.com/develop...

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                            1. wienermobile re: CharlesDarwin With a $7.5 million dollar renovation cost won't they have to charge $88 dollars each for a Turkey dinner with gravy, stuffing and...

                              With a $7.5 million dollar renovation cost won't they have to charge $88 dollars each for a Turkey dinner with gravy, stuffing and cranberries that used to cost $10?

                              1. Servorg re: wienermobile As I understand it they are going to be officially named "The Clifton's-Hakkasan Cafeteria" with a slogan of "Where the cost of...

                                As I understand it they are going to be officially named "The Clifton's-Hakkasan Cafeteria" with a slogan of "Where the cost of the Peking Duck is Peaking if you're not afraid of Peeking at the menu prices"

                                1. Tripeler re: Servorg You'll be here all week, right?

                                  You'll be here all week, right?

                              2. o
                                OliverB re: CharlesDarwin Rats, so now it's August? No more June 14th? I'm going to be in LA over July 4th weekend and was dying to go... is there any...

                                Rats, so now it's August? No more June 14th?

                                I'm going to be in LA over July 4th weekend and was dying to go... is there any chance of just the cafeteria being opened by that date? Surely that's gotta be completed by now as it was undoubtedly the least effort of the whole ongoing restoration. I'll be so disappointed if it's not open by July 4th.

                                1. Servorg re: OliverB They will need a Certificate of Occupancy, and that is for the entire building as far as I know. Until that's granted by the city...

                                  They will need a Certificate of Occupancy, and that is for the entire building as far as I know. Until that's granted by the city no one is going to be eating there, so I doubt it will available during your trip.

                              3. s
                                sbell101 FYI to all.... I called Clifton's today (5-27-14) and was told the opening is scheduled for "late summer this year" Let's...

                                FYI to all....

                                I called Clifton's today (5-27-14) and was told the opening is scheduled for "late summer this year"

                                Let's hope

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                                1. wienermobile re: sbell101 Good news thanks! Keep us posted. Chowhound event at opening????

                                  Good news thanks! Keep us posted. Chowhound event at opening????

                                  1. k
                                    kevin re: wienermobile WM, take JL's cue and set it up. That's all you.

                                    WM, take JL's cue and set it up.

                                    That's all you.

                                  2. g
                                    gregisroark It will be worth the wait. And you have no idea what is in store for you

                                    It will be worth the wait. And you have no idea what is in store for you

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                                    1. wienermobile re: gregisroark Tell me more please……..Do you know an opening date?

                                      Tell me more please……..Do you know an opening date?

                                      1. g
                                        gregisroark re: wienermobile Sorry, we have gone to great lengths to keep everything a secret. So anything you will get out of me will only leave you with more...

                                        Sorry, we have gone to great lengths to keep everything a secret. So anything you will get out of me will only leave you with more questions

                                        1. g
                                          gregisroark re: wienermobile I just want everyone to know that it is going forward 150% full steam ahead and you will not be disappointed

                                          I just want everyone to know that it is going forward 150% full steam ahead and you will not be disappointed

                                          1. wienermobile re: gregisroark Ok…..but how about just an opening date to look forward to?

                                            Ok…..but how about just an opening date to look forward to?

                                            1. Servorg re: wienermobile He would need a Ouija board and a magic 8 ball to come up with that information. The P's that B don't give you much to work with...

                                              He would need a Ouija board and a magic 8 ball to come up with that information. The P's that B don't give you much to work with in terms of a "date certain" as far as I can tell.

                                              1. My Magic 8 ball says 2019.

                                      2. e
                                        ey040984 Please open soon. Clifton my favorite restaurant! Please open soon!

                                        Please open soon. Clifton my favorite restaurant! Please open soon!

                                        1. wienermobile Open…open…open….

                                          Open…open…open….

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                                          1. Servorg re: wienermobile That's a misleading wish (since in written form we can't hear the pleading in your voice and this might be an announcement of joy...

                                            That's a misleading wish (since in written form we can't hear the pleading in your voice and this might be an announcement of joy!). (g)

                                            1. jessejames re: wienermobile If u t jonesing for a thanksgiving plate try greenblatts. Great dark meat. Gravy. Cornbread stuffing. Looking forward to Clifton...

                                              If u t jonesing for a thanksgiving plate try greenblatts. Great dark meat. Gravy. Cornbread stuffing. Looking forward to Clifton's too

                                              1. wienermobile re: jessejames The Pann's Turkey Dinner has been holding me for now…

                                                The Pann's Turkey Dinner has been holding me for now…

                                            2. c
                                              CharlesDarwin I must confess: the only appeal of Clifton to me is the fact that it's located in the middle of LA's jewelry district. That is...

                                              I must confess: the only appeal of Clifton to me is the fact that it's located in the middle of LA's jewelry district. That is, 21st century Ali Baba's destination. And I don't mean (with all due respect) the wholesalers' website.

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                                                mc michael re: CharlesDarwin Surely you Charles can appreciate the concept of evolution in the history of restaurants. Let's wait and see how it evolves.

                                                Surely you Charles can appreciate the concept of evolution in the history of restaurants. Let's wait and see how it evolves.

                                              2. spoonlicker Does anyone have a child I can borrow? When Clifton's re-opens, I'm all about The Treasure Tray...

                                                Does anyone have a child I can borrow?

                                                When Clifton's re-opens, I'm all about The Treasure Tray...

                                                -----------------

                                                "At Clifton's we have a special meal for kids under 12 called "The Treasure Tray". It is well balanced and very popular, served on a special tray. The Treasure Tray features an entree like a chicken leg, spaghetti or beef patty with a vegetable, mashed potatoes or macaroni, and jello or pudding. Kids also get to choose a toy from our "Treasure Chest."

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                                                  kevin re: spoonlicker i can be your kid if i can devour those three plate lunches.

                                                  i can be your kid if i can devour those three plate lunches.

                                                  1. spoonlicker re: kevin Deal. Show up in your Angus Young schoolboy outfit, and I think we'll be able to fool 'em. I get to keep the toy prize...

                                                    Deal.

                                                    Show up in your Angus Young schoolboy outfit, and I think we'll be able to fool 'em.

                                                    I get to keep the toy prize, though.

                                                    (And is it just me, or does little-kid food look like it might be the best hangover meal, ever? Booze ain't my jam these days, but I couldn't help but notice...)

                                                2. wienermobile Open…Open…Open….

                                                  Open…Open…Open….

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                                                  1. k
                                                    kevin re: wienermobile it's open now ???????? W, you should be there then, post as soon as you can. thanks man.

                                                    it's open now ????????

                                                    W, you should be there then,

                                                    post as soon as you can.

                                                    thanks man.

                                                    1. wienermobile re: kevin No still not open. Just wishing out loud. Should of used all caps.

                                                      No still not open. Just wishing out loud. Should of used all caps.

                                                  2. c
                                                    csh123 does anyone know where parking could be if it opens up? Just private lots?

                                                    does anyone know where parking could be if it opens up? Just private lots?

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                                                    1. c
                                                      CharlesDarwin re: csh123 Nothing to worry about. By that time, we'll all be traveling via our private PUADODs. (Pick - Up - And - Drop - Off - Drones).

                                                      Nothing to worry about. By that time, we'll all be traveling via our private PUADODs. (Pick - Up - And - Drop - Off - Drones).

                                                    2. Kate is always hungry Any news on Clifton's return? It's been almost 3 years!

                                                      Any news on Clifton's return? It's been almost 3 years!

                                                      1. wienermobile Wonderful photo of the original exterior on Broadway in the 1930's

                                                        Wonderful photo of the original exterior on Broadway in the 1930's

                                                        1. a
                                                          anim1030 I love everyones comments...I cant wait either YUMMMMM!!!!!

                                                          I love everyones comments...I cant wait either YUMMMMM!!!!!

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                                                            OliverB re: anim1030 Any updates?? I'm blowing back into town over the holidasy (December) and Clifton's tops my list! What's the latest??

                                                            Any updates??

                                                            I'm blowing back into town over the holidasy (December) and Clifton's tops my list!

                                                            What's the latest??

                                                          2. k
                                                            Kyubert I'm afraid that it will never open

                                                            I'm afraid that it will never open

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                                                              OliverB re: Kyubert Why do you say that? Is it still undergoing renovations???

                                                              Why do you say that? Is it still undergoing renovations???

                                                              1. v
                                                                veronykah re: Kyubert Thank you, me too. I've been with my boyfriend for 3 years and I think it's been closed the entire time, as it is (was) my favorite...

                                                                Thank you, me too. I've been with my boyfriend for 3 years and I think it's been closed the entire time, as it is (was) my favorite place in LA and I never got to take him there.
                                                                Wonder if it will ever open again and if it does if it will be ruined.

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                                                                  Agrade re: veronykah i grew up going to cliftons on the weekends, that was the one luxury we were able to afford, we would hit the theater after our...

                                                                  i grew up going to cliftons on the weekends, that was the one luxury we were able to afford, we would hit the theater after our meal

                                                                  last time i was there it was about fifteen years ago, and it felt like the prices had gone way high. with the dtla movement, i can only imagine prices being crazy out of control if it ever reopens

                                                              2. wienermobile Hopefully all your jello needs will soon be met...

                                                                Hopefully all your jello needs will soon be met...

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                                                                  OliverB re: wienermobile Is there any hope for a Christmas miracle this year? I'll be in LA over the holidays and a visit to Clifton's is my number one...

                                                                  Is there any hope for a Christmas miracle this year?

                                                                  I'll be in LA over the holidays and a visit to Clifton's is my number one Xmas wish for this trip... should I not get my hopes up too high? I thought I read an online article (a few months back) stating that Clifton's was slated for reopening in mid-November. I wonder if permits or bureacracy have anything to do with it? I can't imagine that they're still doing renovations.

                                                                  1. wienermobile re: OliverB Nope...No hope for this Xmas. Let's hope at least for next Xmas. If you haven't been to LA in a while try Grand Central Market...

                                                                    Nope...No hope for this Xmas. Let's hope at least for next Xmas.

                                                                    If you haven't been to LA in a while try Grand Central Market. It will definitely surprise you…HaPPY HOLIdaYs

                                                                    1. o
                                                                      OliverB re: wienermobile Thanks winer, that's a disappointment. We're down South every few months but I haven't been to Grand Central Market yet. It looks...

                                                                      Thanks winer, that's a disappointment.

                                                                      We're down South every few months but I haven't been to Grand Central Market yet. It looks great and we may check it out - thanks!

                                                                      1. wienermobile re: OliverB A disappointment to us all. Please open soon….

                                                                        A disappointment to us all. Please open soon….

                                                                2. wienermobile What I really want for Xmas is for Clifton's to OPEN!

                                                                  What I really want for Xmas is for Clifton's to OPEN!

                                                                  1. wienermobile Opening day, July 19th 1935

                                                                    Opening day, July 19th 1935

                                                                    1. Are they open yet?

                                                                      1. wienermobile Progress! Clifton’s Cafeteria Installing New Signage on Facade in Downtown LA! http://brighamyen.com/2015/01/26/cliftons-cafeteria...

                                                                        Progress! Clifton’s Cafeteria Installing New Signage on Facade in Downtown LA!
                                                                        http://brighamyen.com/2015/01/26/clif...

                                                                        1. wienermobile They turned the sign on! They turned the sign on!

                                                                          They turned the sign on! They turned the sign on!

                                                                            1. Mr Taster re: wienermobile I saw that this weekend. I like that they're restoring the look of the original facade, but think it's in bad taste that they're...

                                                                              I saw that this weekend. I like that they're restoring the look of the original facade, but think it's in bad taste that they're declaring "living history" right in the neon. It's a bit too on-the-nose for my taste.

                                                                              Still, can't wait to see what they've done to the place inside.

                                                                              Mr Taster

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                                                                                Agrade re: Mr Taster yeah, that goes without saying, bad planning and design, i wouldnt be surprised if it was the city's idea as part of there renovation...

                                                                                yeah, that goes without saying, bad planning and design, i wouldnt be surprised if it was the city's idea as part of there renovation approval

                                                                            2. wienermobile Some possible good news... Clifton's is a Sponsor of this years Last Remaining Seats on Broadway and a new logo (above) has appeared...

                                                                              Some possible good news... Clifton's is a Sponsor of this years Last Remaining Seats on Broadway and a new logo (above) has appeared. Does this mean an opening soon?

                                                                              1. wienermobile Big news…Clifton's may finally open this August! http://la.eater.com/2015/5/19/8626449/cliftons-cafeteria-downtown-opening-rumors...

                                                                                Big news…Clifton's may finally open this August!
                                                                                http://la.eater.com/2015/5/19/8626449...

                                                                                1. d
                                                                                  DowntownHabitue Just today telephoned the number given on the "official" Clifton's web page (213-627-1673). The girl who answered identified by...

                                                                                  Just today telephoned the number given on the "official" Clifton's web page (213-627-1673). The girl who answered identified by saying "The Edison". (She explained it was a sister company, and they are the ones doing the renovations.) Anyway, I asked if there was a date yet for the reopening of Clifton's -- and was informed it is now "late summer" (of 2015). So I guess it'll be a bit more time before we get to return.

                                                                                  1. The Bison are back.

                                                                                    1. wienermobile From todays LA Eater: The chef at Clifton's will be Jason Fullilove, who only recently left Malibu Pier restaurant. Prior to that...

                                                                                      From todays LA Eater: The chef at Clifton's will be Jason Fullilove, who only recently left Malibu Pier restaurant. Prior to that, Fullilove had worked with Mark Peel at Campanile / Tar Pit, as well as Patina’s slate of LACMA-based offerings. No word on opening date yet. Soon?
                                                                                      http://la.eater.com/2015/7/20/9003871...

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                                                                                        veronykah re: wienermobile Great, sounds ruined. I didn't go to Clifton's for farm to table, small plates dining. I went for a cafeteria that served carrot...

                                                                                        Great, sounds ruined.
                                                                                        I didn't go to Clifton's for farm to table, small plates dining.
                                                                                        I went for a cafeteria that served carrot raisin salad like my mom makes and simple, homeade food.
                                                                                        I don't want to see a chef there I want to see a bunch of old ladies making food like they cook at home. I'm really scared they will have completely ruined my favorite place in LA when it opens again...

                                                                                        1. wienermobile re: veronykah Don't worry….They will be using many of Clifton's original recipes.

                                                                                          Don't worry….They will be using many of Clifton's original recipes.

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                                                                                            littlestevie re: veronykah I saw that article as well, and I was thinking the same thing. These guys look like they want to put their own "spin" on Clifton...

                                                                                            I saw that article as well, and I was thinking the same thing. These guys look like they want to put their own "spin" on Clifton's and totally eff the whole the up. Well we shall see, hopefully sooner than later.

                                                                                            1. khh1138 re: veronykah Carrot & Raisin salad!! I haven't had any since Beadle's Cafeteria closed in Pasadena. Oh god. That and their rice pudding.

                                                                                              Carrot & Raisin salad!! I haven't had any since Beadle's Cafeteria closed in Pasadena. Oh god. That and their rice pudding.

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                                                                                                AAQjr re: khh1138 Is everyone going to be crushed when the menu/recipes are different?

                                                                                                Is everyone going to be crushed when the menu/recipes are different?

                                                                                                1. v
                                                                                                  veronykah re: AAQjr I'm already crushed that they've changed it into a whole new place but are pretending to have kept it the same.

                                                                                                  I'm already crushed that they've changed it into a whole new place but are pretending to have kept it the same.

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                                                                                                    AAQjr re: veronykah I always had the impression they are keeping the 'spirit' of the original.

                                                                                                    I always had the impression they are keeping the 'spirit' of the original.

                                                                                                    1. wienermobile re: AAQjr I did too. They found all the original recipes.

                                                                                                      I did too. They found all the original recipes.

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                                                                                                        veronykah re: AAQjr I'm not particularly interested in a pretend version of something that actually existed before they destroyed it though. That's...

                                                                                                        I'm not particularly interested in a pretend version of something that actually existed before they destroyed it though.
                                                                                                        That's what I get out of all of this. "Hey! We completely changed it into the Addams Family version of Clifton's circa 2015, complete with celebrity chefs and mixology!"
                                                                                                        There are plenty of places in LA I could have gone with that. Clifton's was a one of a kind 75 year running place and now it's gone. Sad.

                                                                                                        1. wienermobile re: veronykah Without this remodel and the new owners Clifton's would not have lived much longer. The new owners have taken 4 years in this restoration...

                                                                                                          Without this remodel and the new owners Clifton's would not have lived much longer. The new owners have taken 4 years in this restoration and have spent close to $10 million dollars, please at least give them a chance. It will still be a one of a kind space…Clifton's is far from gone.

                                                                                                          1. Mr Taster re: veronykah veronykah, I echo your sentiments. The early photos with the douchey club lighting hit me in all sortsa wrong ways. This feels...

                                                                                                            veronykah, I echo your sentiments.

                                                                                                            The early photos with the douchey club lighting hit me in all sortsa wrong ways.

                                                                                                            This feels to me like another case of taking a place conceived of and meant for the "everyman", and turning it into a place meant for hipsters.

                                                                                                            Mr Taster

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                                                                                                              Jase re: veronykah Oh give me a freaking break. It was already gone and they were going under. Owner has plowed a ton of money and at least from...

                                                                                                              Oh give me a freaking break. It was already gone and they were going under.

                                                                                                              Owner has plowed a ton of money and at least from that one article seems like he's going to try and put money back to the community.

                                                                                                              They obviously wasn't going to survive doing things exactly how it was before. Why not actually wait to see what it looks like before all this drama.

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                                                                                                                veronykah re: Jase Who was going under? I've never read that anywhere and not sure how that would happen considering the children owned the building...

                                                                                                                Who was going under? I've never read that anywhere and not sure how that would happen considering the children owned the building and they were still serving 1-2000 people a day in 2009.
                                                                                                                The guy putting a bunch of money into his vanity project doesn't mean jack to me. He's going to try to put money back into the community? By taking a place that was committed to serving the underserved and making it for people with money? Sure.

                                                                                                                Considering it was "the oldest surviving cafeteria style eatery in Los Angeles, California" I hardly agree that it wasn't going to survive. It had survived for 75 years.

                                                                                                                What's the difference if it was gone? It is anyway.
                                                                                                                Sorry if you don't understand history or aren't into preservation. There are some things that are unique and special and, to me, Clifton's was exactly that. I have never seen anything like it and I've lived all over and been plenty of places. We can build all sorts of new and interesting stuff but you can never replace history once it's gone. Clifton's is gone and it's a huge loss as far as I'm concerned. If that makes you angry, be happy in the fact that you've won this one.

                                                                                                                1. j
                                                                                                                  Jase re: veronykah LOL! Who said anything about not understanding history or not into preservation. My irritation was directed at knee jerk reactions...

                                                                                                                  LOL! Who said anything about not understanding history or not into preservation. My irritation was directed at knee jerk reactions that the place would suck.

                                                                                                                  See the article posted by The Offalo below. Here it is again. http://www.lamag.com/longform/behold-...

                                                                                                                  It gives background on what has transpired.

                                                                                                                  Page 2, the family is quoted as saying the numbers didn't add up. They put it up in the market. The money quote:

                                                                                                                  "In 2006, the Clinton family put the last remaining Clifton’s cafeteria on the market. The tray line was still serving mashed potatoes and chocolate banana cake to approximately 1,000 people a day, but the numbers weren’t adding up. “None of us wanted to do it,” says Robert, “but it was the reality. At the time there were just three family members there to make the decision: my dad, my aunt Jean, and myself. It was unanimous. And then,” says Robert, “my aunt died.”

                                                                                                                  For anyone who loves historical buildings, it's a good thing someone like this developer came along and was willing to invest over 5 years and millions of dollars to preserve what he can. Otherwise the building would have kept rotting away. Until someone who is unwilling to invest that much time and money would go for a quick profit, raze the whole building and put up something modern within a year.

                                                                                                                  So the guy has to update the menu to turn a profit, so what? There's not enough demand for the type of food Clifton used to serve to maintain the facilities.

                                                                                                                  For now at least the guy is trying to stay through to the original vision of service. Another quote:

                                                                                                                  "But each check at Clifton’s will feature a donation option, allowing customers to contribute toward a subsidized low-cost dish each day. Additionally, the restaurant will be donating vouchers to nonprofits that can distribute them as rewards to volunteers, and it’s hiring some of the requisite 300-plus workers through job training programs like Homeboy Industries."

                                                                                                                  So sure, lament the passing of the old Clifton's, we all do. I remember going in there as a kid and a teen wandering around downtown in the pre-gentrification days. I loved the feel. But times change.

                                                                                                                  But to make knee jerk reactions before the place has even opened for a guy that has put his money where his mouth is when it comes to history, preservation and community service is just uncalled for. That's where my irritation is directed. Things like this are not always binary. Progress and preservation can go hand in hand.

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                                                                                                      CastironJim re: wienermobile I've always admired Clifton's compassionate side; feeding everyone regardless their ability to pay. From the Clifton's website...

                                                                                                      I've always admired Clifton's compassionate side; feeding everyone regardless their ability to pay.

                                                                                                      From the Clifton's website:

                                                                                                      "Their over-riding philosophy is still "make a friend of every guest" and allow them to "dine free unless delighted." They still feed the hungry who can't afford a meal, and they still link arms with the Salvation Army in providing food for body and soul to those who hunger throughout this vast world."

                                                                                                    3. wienermobile very cool new photo from photographer James Cottle.

                                                                                                      very cool new photo from photographer James Cottle.

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                                                                                                      1. wienermobile From LA Eater today... Clifton's is starting to hire staff. We are finally getting close. http://la.eater.com/2015/8/6/9112323...

                                                                                                        From LA Eater today... Clifton's is starting to hire staff. We are finally getting close.
                                                                                                        http://la.eater.com/2015/8/6/9112323/...

                                                                                                        1. j
                                                                                                          JosephEBacon Hey, it looks like major movement is going on to revitalize Clifton's! http://la.eater.com/2015/8/6/9112323/cliftons-cafeteria...

                                                                                                          Hey, it looks like major movement is going on to revitalize Clifton's!

                                                                                                          http://la.eater.com/2015/8/6/9112323/...

                                                                                                          1. TheOffalo Haven't even read the (longish--well, longer than a blurb) article yet, but thought I'd share: http://www.lamag.com/longform/the...

                                                                                                            Haven't even read the (longish--well, longer than a blurb) article yet, but thought I'd share: http://www.lamag.com/longform/the-enc....

                                                                                                            1. wienermobile Great news from LA Magazine"Clifton's opens September 17th 2015"

                                                                                                              Great news from LA Magazine"Clifton's opens September 17th 2015"

                                                                                                              1. wienermobile wonderful photos in new Clifton's LA Times article…. http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-cliftons-redo-20150816-story.html

                                                                                                                wonderful photos in new Clifton's LA Times article….
                                                                                                                http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi...

                                                                                                                1. wienermobile Clifton's will open September 21st as a charity event for the LA Conservancy. https://www.laconservancy.org/cliftons-2015 For...

                                                                                                                  Clifton's will open September 21st as a charity event for the LA Conservancy.
                                                                                                                  https://www.laconservancy.org/clifton...

                                                                                                                  For $125, you'll enjoy food, drink, and entertainment in the first-floor cafeteria you've waited so long to revisit, as well as the new Monarch Bar on the second floor. You'll get passed hors d'oeuvres, beverages (alcoholic and non), and full dinner and dessert -- by going through the cafeteria line, of course!

                                                                                                                  For $250, you'll have additional VIP access, including an exclusive behind-the-scenes tour at 8 p.m. with owner Andrew Meieran of the third and fourth floors, which won't open until later this year. We have only a limited number of VIP tickets available, so get yours now!

                                                                                                                  1. wienermobile Kevin (Yes Kevin) sent me this article from the LA times. Enjoy http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-re-cliftons-memories-20150817...

                                                                                                                    Kevin (Yes Kevin) sent me this article from the LA times. Enjoy
                                                                                                                    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi...

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                                                                                                                    1. a213b re: wienermobile The real kevin?????????????????????????????????????????? Tell him we all said "Hi", and miss him 'round these parts

                                                                                                                      The real kevin??????????????????????????????????????????

                                                                                                                      Tell him we all said "Hi", and miss him 'round these parts

                                                                                                                      1. t
                                                                                                                        Thor123 re: a213b http://la.eater.com/2015/8/17/9165535/cliftons-cafeteria-los-angeles-downtown-opening-photos#4811484
                                                                                                                        1. Yes The Real Kevin!

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