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Chicken soup question

vanessa7 | Jan 30, 201907:10 AM 11
Soup Chicken

I was going to make Samin Nostrat's chicken and garlic soup. When I make stock, I usually poach a whole chicken and then take the meat off after an hour into it. Is there a reason this chicken soup recipe and most recipes want you to cut up the chicken or could I just start with a whole chicken and take the meat off? I guess I probably need to go ahead and get comfortable cutting up a chicken, but I wondered how much it matters.

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  1. PSRaT the only reason to cut it up is so fits in the pot. frankly I never use a fresh whole chicken for stock. it's been roasted or...

    the only reason to cut it up is so fits in the pot.
    frankly I never use a fresh whole chicken for stock. it's been roasted or stewed, meat stripped, then I use the carcass for stock.

    cutting up a chicken is easy - many videos available to demo the technique - sharp knife highly recommended...

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      sheetz re: PSRaT Cutting it up also helps it cook faster.

      Cutting it up also helps it cook faster.

      1. PSRaT re: sheetz undoubtedly true. however, cooking it down to make a good stock for soup is a hours thing. it'll cook through no matter how big...

        undoubtedly true. however, cooking it down to make a good stock for soup is a hours thing. it'll cook through no matter how big or small it is.

    2. s
      saregama Some combination of fitting in the pot and safer/easier to take out to remove the meat (whole chicken + boiling liquid = very hot...

      Some combination of fitting in the pot and safer/easier to take out to remove the meat (whole chicken + boiling liquid = very hot splashing).

      Plus, not everyone may be comfortable cooking a whole chicken anymore, or it may work out more expensive than buying (meaty) parts - that’s the case near me

      If you’re used to poaching a whole chicken already, no need to cut it up.

      1. d
        damiano I prefer using whole fresh chickens - also for soup.

        I prefer using whole fresh chickens - also for soup.

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          LadyofTexas I think the reason behind cutting up a whole chicken to make stock is to expose more of the flesh and bones to heat and moisture...

          I think the reason behind cutting up a whole chicken to make stock is to expose more of the flesh and bones to heat and moisture, therefore making the stock richer.
          I just use the carcass of a roasted chicken, or buy skin on, rib bones attached chicken breasts, and use the bones and skin to make stock.

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          1. paulj re: LadyofTexas Often I cook a chicken whole (or parts if convenient), take off the meat, and put the scraps (bones, skin, etc) back in the pot...

            Often I cook a chicken whole (or parts if convenient), take off the meat, and put the scraps (bones, skin, etc) back in the pot for a second round of cooking (often in pressure cooker mode). So the richness of the stock doesn't depend on how I start the bird.

            My 6qt Instant Pot handles a whole 5lb chicken.

            Other times I'll break up a whole chicken, save the legs and thighs for later use, debone the breast and save that meat. The rest goes into the pot for stock.

            1. tcamp re: LadyofTexas That was always my impression too. Expose more flesh and bone. I generally make stock with a carcass and odds and ends I don't use...

              That was always my impression too. Expose more flesh and bone. I generally make stock with a carcass and odds and ends I don't use in other dishes, such as wings.

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                ratgirlagogo re: LadyofTexas "I think the reason behind cutting up a whole chicken to make stock is to expose more of the flesh and bones to heat and moisture...

                "I think the reason behind cutting up a whole chicken to make stock is to expose more of the flesh and bones to heat and moisture, therefore making the stock richer. "

                Yes, I agree. I always make soup/stock out of leftover poultry carcasses, but I also use those little soup chickens they sell in Spanish groceries, or supermarkets that have a lot of Hispanic customers. They are about 2 and 1/2 pounds apiece, come two to a package, and are usually labeled something like "gallinas para sopa." They are what used to be called stewing hens, but I rarely see them labelled in English.

                1. PSRaT re: ratgirlagogo keeping in mind that local usage varies . . . a stewing hen in mid-Atlantic was an older (and larger) bird. usually hens past...

                  keeping in mind that local usage varies . . .

                  a stewing hen in mid-Atlantic was an older (and larger) bird. usually hens past their value as laying hens.

                  also 'tougher' - which made them more suited to long wet cooking than a more tender (and younger) fryer.

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                    ratgirlagogo re: PSRaT Oh, I believe these birds are old birds too. They have a strong chickeny flavor, are pretty tough and would be a disaster if roasted...

                    Oh, I believe these birds are old birds too. They have a strong chickeny flavor, are pretty tough and would be a disaster if roasted.

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