I'm tired of 13 dollar burgers, small portions, and hype. I want a meaty rare and large burger. I just tried Father's office, and well yes it is fab, wonderful, great, a foodie burger.Worth 13 bucks though? Hardly, i mean those onions are most of its flavor. Today I tried Pie n Burger up in Pasadena, cute place, but man was it small and pricy. My burger was cooked perfectly but it was small. I don't like small! Any suggestions, im tired of Apple Pan type burgers. Where can I get a wet rare,bohemeth burger? Is Cassel's alone? Good quality rare large patties and grilled onions are my key to happiness.