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All I am aware of at present is the viking HA, All Clad MC2, and All Clad LTD, as well as a Carlson pan.
I like the MC2 and LTD, but consider them barely adequate for evenness. I find clad such as all clad D3 and even the Demeyere 5 plus or Vollrath Tribute to not cut it, although the last two are a little better. Proline is even enough, but so heavy and expensive, and slow to respond, and only available in skillets.
I could go thick bare aluminum for cheap (agnelli seems great value for their 5mm range), or go non-stick, but I want pans I can high-temp cook in without worry and cook wine/tomatoes (I often do) without worry, so what would really be perfect is just a thicker Al/SS bimetal. I think in the 4mm to 5mm of Al range would be good, ideally on the bottom, with 2mm to 3mm on the sidewalls. All clad mc2/ltd pieces are around 3mm of Al, give or take a little, maybe up to 3.5mm in some thicker pieces/older lines.
Right now I'm thinking either I need to experiment with bare Al and see how bad it is cook tomato sauce or do red wine braises; use more non stick pieces (I don't mind for an egg or fish pan, but it doesn't appeal to me for all my pieces, for a variety of reasons); live with the just-adequate evenness of about 3mm of Al in the all clad bimetal; play with thick disc cookware like Fissler (doesn't appeal so much b/c I have gas with a poor low-end adjustability and won't be able to use high heat without ring of fire); or just bite the bullet and go copper.
Copper is my ultimate goal anyway, it is just a matter of cost, as a whole batterie will be a significant investment, and I could get an entire all clad bimetal set for a fraction and then upgrade piece meal to copper. Furthermore, while I see some nice 2mm tinned pieces or the Falk 2.3mm bimetal, if I really go for copper part me feels I'd like to go thick or go home, and go for 3mm+, maybe some Soy or Mazzetti pieces, or maybe BCC (which comes in at around 3.15mm or so), to get the full benefit and not have to reinvest in future when I want more performance, which means one piece may be more than an entire bimetal set.
I wish all clad just did LTD in a 4mm+ AL thickness version, maybe 5mm+ for larger format. Probably too hard to market it to make people understand and they wouldn't get their money out of the raw materials and re-tooling...they put such a big markup on the new LTD when it came out a few years ago (10 piece for $800ish...nice stuff, but not worth that, except maybe for the lack of other options in this niche), they would probably ask a ridiculous price for an extra thick version, but it would sell like hotcakes to serious enthusiasts and maybe to restaurants as well if the price were right.
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