Joyce Slaton speaks this week with ousted Top Chef Mia Gaines-Alt on why firemen who can stand the heat couldn’t stay in her kitchen, the origins of her trademark ketcherella (spoiler: It has nothing to do with Jane Fonda), and how she likes her liquor hard and straight.

Listen to other Top Chef podcasts:
Frank Terzoli
Carlos Fernandez
Marisa Churchill and Josie Smith-Malave
Emily Sprissler
Otto Borsich
Suyai Steinhauer and Judge Tom Colicchio

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