I'm looking for a cafe or bakery in Manhattan Beach that is open until at least 10pm on weekdays and a good place to have a conversation with 4 people. More coffee and dessert than dinner food, but full menu is a plus. Something similar to Sweet Lady Jane or MILK on Beverly would be perfect. Is Neighborhood Grinds a good place for a conversation? Could also be Redondo Beach or Torrance if it's by the 405. Thanks!