the ones with the deep 1 inch-wide, 1 inch deep "drip-lip" for berry ooze all around the pie pan, like my mom prefers to use. a 9 inch pie pan becomes an 11-inch flying saucer-looking thing, can you picture it? does any company still make these? i absolutely don't care how much they cost, if i can just get my hands on some, & i've been looking for years. TIA chowhounds!